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The Moon and The Sea by ThundersSilence The Moon and The Sea by ThundersSilence
my first time doing sepia (cuttlefish) cast. and for once i can seriously say i love one of my own works.
this came out much better than i expected. i love the pattern/texture and i will be experimenting a lot with this in the future. i also plan using this technique on my final exam's work.

sterling silver
the stone should be howlite, thanks to ~Isaskar and ~artsyjana for help with that! ^^

it's about 10grams if i remember right, and a little under 3,5cm (1,7inch)
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magpie-poet Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2009
I love the design. So simple and elegant. Totally using nature to its best advantage :D

I'm hoping to do cuttlefish casts at some point, looking foward. (Though trying not to get my hopes up on the final results!)
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
thank you ^^
good luck with the casting! a lot has to do with the quality of the cuttlefish shells, so try to get good ones ;)
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magpie-poet Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2009
Any tips? I'm not sure what constitutes 'good' when looking for a fish sort of skeleton!
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
mhh... try to get slightly bigger ones, so when pressing in the form you want to cast (or carving it or however you wanna do it) you are sure to have enough space left all around it to not have it burn through when casting. and then it shouldn't be too brittle. if the shells are old they get brittle and the texture won't come out cleanly. basically when you press your fingernail into it it should go in with a little pressure and there shouldn't be pieces of "chalk" breaking off on the sides. hope that makes any sense at all ^^'
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magpie-poet Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2009
It did. Of course around here the only ones i can get are sealed up, so I wasn't able to manhandle them. So we'll see how it goes when class gets to casting ;) Thanks for the info.
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
ahh. damn. but good luck with it! it's always very exciting to see what comes out when using this technique
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magpie-poet Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2009
Thanks. Didn't go so well, first one is here: [link] the second one broke in half and didn't pour properly when I cheaply tried to salvage the half! I'm going to keep looking for ones not in plastic so I can feel them first like you'd suggested. The places here don't have any, but the ones they carry have been dead too long.

That kind of makes the whole thing sound creepy...
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
^^ i really don't think that first try looked bad at all... and the more you do the better they'll become in any case ;)

creepy :D yeah, a bit!!
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Ealury Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2008   Writer
uh, i want this... -__-"
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
i do wear it a lot ;)
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ikkuma Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
this is gorgeous! i'd love to have something like this. well done!
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
thank you so much :)
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ikkuma Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
no problem :D
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Klarenden Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2008
Wow, I absolutely love the texture on it! I don't understand what is the cuttlefish cast? I haven't heard of that technique before. I was going to ask you how did you get the texture applied like that on the silver...but I'm guessing its from the cuttlefish cast? Someone had suggest sodalite...i believe that stone only comes in blue, to me it looks more like white onyx, but with the shades of grey in it, it could be snowflake jasper, either way, it does a wonderful accent on this pendant.
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
in cuttlefish casting you basically take the "inner shell" of a cuttlefish, carve the desired form into it and then cast the molten silver in it. the results can be very different depending on the quality of the shell, the form you carve/press into it and other things. but this was my first try and i personally really love it and will do it again. more precise information can be found here: [link]

thank you so much! ^^
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Klarenden Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2008
Mmmmm sounds very interesting. I think I'm going to make a comment to my professor see if she knows anything about it. It gives a wonderful texture to silver. Thanks for the link! What kind of casting is your favorite?
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
i've only done two kinds so far, cuttlefish and the normal "lost-wax-thing" whatever it's called in english. it always belongs to what you wanna do of course, but i am definitely in love with this texture so this one's my favourite for now ^^
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artsyjana Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2008  Professional General Artist
When you've done the lost-wax casting, do you use the centrifical method or vacuum assist? Just wondering because the people in my program usually really prefer one over the other. I like centrifical, but most people seem to prefer vacuum assist.
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
it's been a while but i think i did the vacuum assist. we didn't really get the choice though, because it was a course pretty early in our training so the teacher prepared the mold and we just cast...
haven't tried the centrifugal yet, though if i remember right we do have a machine for it at school. but i think they generally use that only for casting bronze.
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Klarenden Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2008
Lol yeah, I can't remember what the greek word is for it. I'm pretty sure it had to be in my last history book because for a whole semester we talked about lost wax process for bronze statues. I don't remember if the other name for it was ever mentioned in the book. . I'm showing my professor your artwork when I get to see her in class. She's pretty knowledgeable, I'm hiping she knows about this.

Beautiful Beautiful :)
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
^^ thank you so much! i feel honoured! XD
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Klarenden Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2008
Your Welcome :)
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artsyjana Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2008  Professional General Artist
Cutlefish bones can also be purchased at pet supply stores. What I love about cuttlefish casting is the instant gratification.

I could be wrong, but the stone looks like howlite: [link]
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
yep, that's where i got mine from ^^ they had much better shells there than the ones stored at my school. and the stone really seems to be howlite! thanks a lot for that!!
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josh-swinehart Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2008
Beautiful, well done.
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beelzebubby Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2008
Wonderful work!
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
:bow: thank you
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moonbeebz Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2008  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Wow, somthing in a cuttlefish cast that actually looks really good. Congratulations!
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
:D thank you. that sounds as if you generally don't like cuttlefish casts?
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moonbeebz Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Not the ones I've seen though I'm sure there's some more beautifully crafted stuff out there. I'm not sure I should be critical because I've never tried working with the stuff. But you encourage me...
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
thanks you ^^ i liked working with it and will do so again. i think the trick is to make something that enhances the texture of the cuttlefish and not swallows it... also, getting good quality shells is essential... zoo shops should have them since that stuff is normally given to e.g. birds so they get calcium carbonate
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moonbeebz Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2008  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
It sure lends itself to marine themes...fish scales shore lines but that is probably just a box an artist may want to think outside of.
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NoraBlansett Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2008  Professional General Artist
I'm pretty sure that stone is a sodalite -- but whatever the stone, that is GORGEOUS!
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
thank you!! XD
mhhh... can sodalite be only white and gray, too? because there was no hint of blue in this at all...
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silken Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2008  Professional General Artist
The stone is actually perfect...it provides both a contrast to the deeper toned silver and a neutral base so that the silver is the high-light.

Really beautiful, classic piece.
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
thank you :bow:
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silken Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2008  Professional General Artist
You're very welcome...:D
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Hyllyn Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2008
Lovely work
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
thanks
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DonSimpson Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2008
This is entirely wonderful.
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
thank you very much :)
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denlm Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2008
One of your best, woman! I would use a pearl, but an opal would be cool too. The texture is what sets it apart, no question.
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
:blushes: thanks ^^ yeah, i agree, pearl would work nicely, too. but then i liked this stone a lot because it has the texture that looks to me very much like the moon. i had two stones to choose from for this. one was a real moonstone (a plain cream color) and then this with the texture
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denlm Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2008
You made a smart choice. Love it.
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Ignisburns Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2008
I love this piece! :) The texture is wonderful! :)
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
thank you :)
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Ignisburns Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2008
You are welcome! :)
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Mr-nobady Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
wow thats amazing, especially the textures, could you pleez tell more about the cuttlefish casting, if its not a secret, love the look and desperately want to try it!
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
thank you and no, it's not a secret ^^ it's a pretty old technique actually... and basically really simple. you get yourself cuttlefish shells (from a zooshop for example) carve/press into them the form you want to cast, and then just cast.

ok, that was the extremely short version ;)
but this link might help you [link]
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harlewood Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2008   Artisan Crafter
perfect cuttlefish casting with a great design and title. I know how hard it is to get such symmetry!
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